Magic User List (magicu-l) Developer Survey 2008 - Results
1. Which version of Magic/eDeveloper have you most recently purchased or acquired?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 | 67.33% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v9 | 29.70% |
| Magic v8 | 1.98% |
| Magic v3 | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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2. Which version of Magic do you currently use as your main, everyday IDE?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Magic/eDeveloper v9 | 50.50% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 | 32.67% |
| Magic v8 | 11.88% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 Discovery | 2.97% |
| Magic v3 | 0.99% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 - Rich Client | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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3. Which was the first version of Magic you developed with?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Magic v5 | 36.63% |
| Magic v3 | 25.74% |
| Magic v8 | 8.91% |
| Magic v2 | 7.92% |
| Magic v4 | 6.93% |
| Magic v7 | 3.96% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v9 | 3.96% |
| Magic v6 | 2.97% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 | 1.98% |
| Magic/eDeveloper v10 Discovery | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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4. Please rate your most recent Magic version purchased in the following areas: ()
Rating
| Item | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Total Stars | Average Rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Technology | 1.0% |
3.0% |
25.7% |
45.5% |
24.8% |
101 | 3.9 |
| Feature Set | 3.0% |
7.0% |
26.0% |
46.0% |
18.0% |
100 | 3.7 |
| Platform Support (OS, Database, etc.) | (N/A) |
9.1% |
22.2% |
47.5% |
21.2% |
99 | 3.8 |
| Quality | 4.0% |
6.0% |
38.0% |
37.0% |
15.0% |
100 | 3.5 |
| Documentation | 12.0% |
22.0% |
39.0% |
18.0% |
9.0% |
100 | 2.9 |
| Install/Registration | 7.0% |
12.0% |
30.0% |
33.0% |
18.0% |
100 | 3.4 |
| Performance | 5.0% |
6.0% |
31.0% |
45.0% |
13.0% |
100 | 3.6 |
| Value | 2.0% |
8.0% |
40.0% |
28.0% |
22.0% |
100 | 3.6 |
| 34 | 73 | 252 | 300 | 141 |
Total Responses: 101
5. Please rate your satisfaction with your most recent Magic/eDeveloper purchase when compared with your previous Magic/eDeveloper purchase ()
Rating
| Item | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Total Stars | Average Rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Technology | 2.0% |
5.0% |
20.8% |
34.7% |
37.6% |
101 | 4.0 |
| Feature Set | 4.0% |
6.0% |
18.0% |
36.0% |
36.0% |
100 | 3.9 |
| Platform Support (OS, Database, etc.) | 1.0% |
3.0% |
39.0% |
35.0% |
22.0% |
100 | 3.7 |
| Quality | 3.0% |
8.0% |
28.0% |
41.0% |
20.0% |
100 | 3.7 |
| Documentation | 8.0% |
8.0% |
38.0% |
26.0% |
20.0% |
100 | 3.4 |
| Install/Registration | 6.0% |
9.0% |
36.0% |
32.0% |
17.0% |
100 | 3.5 |
| Performance | 4.0% |
14.0% |
33.0% |
29.0% |
20.0% |
100 | 3.5 |
| Value | 4.0% |
7.0% |
30.0% |
35.0% |
24.0% |
100 | 3.7 |
| 32 | 60 | 243 | 269 | 197 |
Total Responses: 101
6. Which languages do you currently develop in? (Check all that apply...)
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Magic/eDeveloper | 97.03% |
| JavaScript/JScript | 20.79% |
| C# | 12.87% |
| VB.NET | 12.87% |
| Visual Basic for Win32 | 10.89% |
| Delphi for Win32 | 9.90% |
| PHP | 9.90% |
| C++ | 6.93% |
| Java | 6.93% |
| Flex | 4.95% |
| C | 3.96% |
| Windev | 2.97% |
| Python | 1.98% |
| RPG | 1.98% |
| Abap Objects | 0.99% |
| APEX from Oracle | 0.99% |
| Embedded MS SQL within Magic | 0.99% |
| Fusion 10 | 0.99% |
| HTML | 0.99% |
| Perl | 0.99% |
| Powerbasic | 0.99% |
| Ruby | 0.99% |
| Siebel | 0.99% |
| smalltalk, erlang | 0.99% |
| VBS | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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7. Which statement most closely matches your use of Magic/eDeveloper?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| I use only Magic for all my software development needs | 60.40% |
| I use Magic as well as other IDEs/tools | 30.69% |
| I use Magic to maintain existing applications and use other IDEs/tools for all new development projects | 5.94% |
| I only use Magic occasionally | 1.98% |
| I no longer use Magic at all | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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8. What existing applications will you be maintaining with Magic in the next 12 months?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Client/Server Applications | 84.16% |
| Desktop/Standalone Applications | 44.55% |
| HTML-Merge-based Web Applications | 39.60% |
| Web Services | 15.84% |
| Browser-Client Applications | 11.88% |
| iBolt Components | 0.99% |
| Rich Client I Hope | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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9. What types of new applications will you be creating with Magic in the next 12 months?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Client/Server Applications | 70.00% |
| Rich Client Applications | 39.00% |
| Desktop/Standalone Applications | 36.00% |
| HTML-Merge-based Web Applications | 33.00% |
| Web Services | 18.00% |
| Browser-Client Applications | 15.00% |
| None | 5.00% |
| iBolt Components | 1.00% |
| Choices Selected: | 100 |
| Total Responses: | 100 |
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10. What is your primary technology used to develop web applications with Magic?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| I don't develop web-applications with Magic | 46.53% |
| HTML-Merge | 39.60% |
| Browser-Client | 7.92% |
| both | 0.99% |
| I don't develop web-applications with Magic, but I plan/want to... | 0.99% |
| LOOKING FOR A TECHNOLOGY | 0.99% |
| Other | 0.99% |
| Standard | 0.99% |
| VB.NET | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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11. If you develop web applications with a tool or framework other than Magic, what do you use? (Check all that apply....)
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| ASP.NET with C# | 22.64% |
| AJAX | 20.75% |
| Dreamweaver | 20.75% |
| PHP | 20.75% |
| Adobe Flex | 16.98% |
| ASP.NET with VB.NET | 15.09% |
| Java/JSP | 13.21% |
| Flash | 11.32% |
| Ruby on Rails | 9.43% |
| Delphi | 5.66% |
| Apache DSO | 3.77% |
| CodeCharge | 3.77% |
| Cold Fusion | 3.77% |
| ? | 1.89% |
| Abap Webdynpro | 1.89% |
| APEX from Oracle | 1.89% |
| Classic ASP | 1.89% |
| Net Objects Fusion 10 | 1.89% |
| nothing | 1.89% |
| Perl | 1.89% |
| smalltalk - seaside, python - django | 1.89% |
| Ultraedit | 1.89% |
| windev | 1.89% |
| Choices Selected: | 53 |
| Total Responses: | 53 |
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12. What database will you primarily use when deploying Magic applications?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Pervasive/Btrieve | 52.48% |
| MS SQL Server | 28.71% |
| Oracle | 14.85% |
| DB2 | 0.99% |
| MySQL | 0.99% |
| ODBC | 0.99% |
| PostgreSQL | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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13. Which operating system do you primarily use to develop magic applications on?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Windows XP | 66.34% |
| Windows 2003 | 13.86% |
| Windows Vista | 13.86% |
| Windows 2000 | 3.96% |
| IBM i | 0.99% |
| OSX/win2003vm | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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14. How would you rate the following areas of the documentation? ()
Rating
| Item | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Total Stars | Average Rating |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| F1 Reference Help | 9.2% |
13.3% |
37.8% |
31.6% |
8.2% |
98 | 3.2 |
| Examples | 25.8% |
26.8% |
27.8% |
15.5% |
4.1% |
97 | 2.5 |
| Procedural/HowTos | 18.8% |
33.3% |
25.0% |
18.8% |
4.2% |
96 | 2.6 |
| Conceptual Overview | 15.6% |
29.2% |
37.5% |
10.4% |
7.3% |
96 | 2.6 |
| Mastering eDeveloper | 6.3% |
12.6% |
33.7% |
28.4% |
18.9% |
95 | 3.4 |
| Sorceror's Apprentice (HS) | 8.3% |
6.9% |
26.4% |
40.3% |
18.1% |
72 | 3.5 |
| Practical Magic (CM) | 13.4% |
9.0% |
31.3% |
23.9% |
22.4% |
67 | 3.3 |
| Magic Wiki (NG) | 14.3% |
10.4% |
32.5% |
31.2% |
11.7% |
77 | 3.2 |
| 99 | 130 | 221 | 170 | 78 |
Total Responses: 98
15. Will you attend Heidi's MIUG 2009?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Maybe | 31.68% |
| No | 31.68% |
| Yes if there was a regional event | 21.78% |
| Yes | 8.91% |
| Yes, and I would love to Present | 4.95% |
| I just hope to be there very much | 0.99% |
| Choices Selected: | 101 |
| Total Responses: | 101 |
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16. Were the live/recorded video streams of MIUG 2008 useful to you?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Didn't watch them | 61.22% |
| Yes | 19.39% |
| Yes, amazing | 9.18% |
| Somewhat | 6.12% |
| No | 4.08% |
| Choices Selected: | 98 |
| Total Responses: | 98 |
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17. Please detail up to 5 Wish-list items you want to see added or enhanced in Magic/eDeveloper
| Values | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| .NET support | 2 | 3.13% |
| Better documentation | 2 | 3.13% |
| GUI | 2 | 3.13% |
| .NET based | 1 | 1.56% |
| .net Components (Visual) | 1 | 1.56% |
| a | 1 | 1.56% |
| Ajax for HTML-Merge | 1 | 1.56% |
| an easier way to develop web apps | 1 | 1.56% |
| be stable | 1 | 1.56% |
| better datagrid | 1 | 1.56% |
| Better GUI | 1 | 1.56% |
| Better GUI components | 1 | 1.56% |
| Better MS Office integration | 1 | 1.56% |
| better native support for import/export of data | 1 | 1.56% |
| Better windows look and feel | 1 | 1.56% |
| Built-in "this isn't used" box | 1 | 1.56% |
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | 1 | 1.56% |
| code based programing along side the Magic way - integration with VS will be the best | 1 | 1.56% |
| Continuation based rich internet client | 1 | 1.56% |
| CSS level GUI features | 1 | 1.56% |
| Default functionality should be more windows like. | 1 | 1.56% |
| Flexible ActiveX Integration - "Open Forms Editor" | 1 | 1.56% |
| Free runtime licensing | 1 | 1.56% |
| Graphing Capabilities | 1 | 1.56% |
| GUI components (like DevExpress) | 1 | 1.56% |
| GUI Controls | 1 | 1.56% |
| GUI Enhancements | 1 | 1.56% |
| HTML Embedded | 1 | 1.56% |
| Improved IDE. v10 is dull - 15 year old technology glammed up. Unacceptable. | 1 | 1.56% |
| Integration with MS OFFICE | 1 | 1.56% |
| kerberos | 1 | 1.56% |
| keyboard macros | 1 | 1.56% |
| Less bugs | 1 | 1.56% |
| Linux workstation support | 1 | 1.56% |
| More examples | 1 | 1.56% |
| more functionalities | 1 | 1.56% |
| Multiline table titles on the new windows style tables | 1 | 1.56% |
| MySQL gateway | 1 | 1.56% |
| n/a | 1 | 1.56% |
| no runtime fees | 1 | 1.56% |
| None | 1 | 1.56% |
| ODBC in ALL versions | 1 | 1.56% |
| open to other RDMS | 1 | 1.56% |
| passing multiple parameters to a select program (from control properties) | 1 | 1.56% |
| Proper web development solution | 1 | 1.56% |
| RAD | 1 | 1.56% |
| Regular Expressions | 1 | 1.56% |
| Rich Client Working as advertised | 1 | 1.56% |
| Rich Internet Client | 1 | 1.56% |
| richer GUI for C/S programs | 1 | 1.56% |
| Scroll Bars on Tables that behave better. Smooth Scrolling that does not alter current highlighted record while scrolling. Scrollbars that don't require 'pre-load' that have better behaviour | 1 | 1.56% |
| seamless Development for the web | 1 | 1.56% |
| see http://wishlist.mage.nl :-D | 1 | 1.56% |
| Separate GUI from logic | 1 | 1.56% |
| Sizeable models | 1 | 1.56% |
| SQL Integration | 1 | 1.56% |
| Subversion support! | 1 | 1.56% |
| Table Column Header Sort after click relocate | 1 | 1.56% |
| Table control | 1 | 1.56% |
| Value | 1 | 1.56% |
| Web Service provider: enhanced/simplified use of complex XSDs; full compliance with the Microsoft world's requirements | 1 | 1.56% |
| Values | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| .Net controls | 1 | 2.22% |
| Access to all the code at runtime | 1 | 2.22% |
| Auditing | 1 | 2.22% |
| be stable | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better and more GUI controls | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better GUI | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better integration with SQL | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better interaction with DotNet | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better Vector support | 1 | 2.22% |
| Better Web Development | 1 | 2.22% |
| Built-in printed documentation feature | 1 | 2.22% |
| Call deferred programs from physical | 1 | 2.22% |
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | 1 | 2.22% |
| Component Palette | 1 | 2.22% |
| data commit before subform | 1 | 2.22% |
| Data Mapper | 1 | 2.22% |
| Documentation | 1 | 2.22% |
| dotnet integration | 1 | 2.22% |
| Easier way to change screen Tab Order | 1 | 2.22% |
| eliminate record locking and alt-e task settings | 1 | 2.22% |
| Enhancements to the languag - especially the handling of .Net assemblies. Ability to declare structures - remove buffers they're rubbish for RAD. More functions and wizards. Ability to add own controls to pallet. Sort that useless colour picker out! | 1 | 2.22% |
| faster | 1 | 2.22% |
| Improved GUI controls | 1 | 2.22% |
| include everything that magic optimizer does | 1 | 2.22% |
| Integrated web development | 1 | 2.22% |
| integration/interface with CMS like Joola | 1 | 2.22% |
| latest features as it is available in other tools | 1 | 2.22% |
| More builtin functions | 1 | 2.22% |
| More traditional array handling | 1 | 2.22% |
| MSSQL support for Express version | 1 | 2.22% |
| None | 1 | 2.22% |
| Open client for linux | 1 | 2.22% |
| Parkable button controls | 1 | 2.22% |
| Portable C/S Client eg OSX | 1 | 2.22% |
| Possibility to query and set table index | 1 | 2.22% |
| PostgreSQL support (not via ODBC) | 1 | 2.22% |
| RC | 1 | 2.22% |
| real native MySQL driver | 1 | 2.22% |
| Recursive components. Primary motiviation is to implement 'call backs' , not to recursively call programs. Currently difficult, and convoluted to implement a black box component. | 1 | 2.22% |
| Rich client | 1 | 2.22% |
| Simple graphical buttons (eg. text with an icon) | 1 | 2.22% |
| Stability with multi-user development | 1 | 2.22% |
| Up to date GUI | 1 | 2.22% |
| Vista style | 1 | 2.22% |
| Windows Explorer Type Functionalities | 1 | 2.22% |
| Values | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| "Back" and "Forward" buttons in studio, taking you to past stopping points and back | 1 | 3.13% |
| .net assemblies support | 1 | 3.13% |
| .NET integration | 1 | 3.13% |
| Access to all statussus of the RTE | 1 | 3.13% |
| Array Handling | 1 | 3.13% |
| be stable | 1 | 3.13% |
| Better and more controls | 1 | 3.13% |
| Better documentation | 1 | 3.13% |
| Better PDF integration | 1 | 3.13% |
| Better SQL Server integration | 1 | 3.13% |
| Bundle at least some of i-bolt with eDev | 1 | 3.13% |
| Call public support for subforms. Once again in the spirit of creating self contained components. Able to call any ECF and public name. | 1 | 3.13% |
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | 1 | 3.13% |
| Cross platform deployment | 1 | 3.13% |
| Database triggers | 1 | 3.13% |
| Easier way to get components | 1 | 3.13% |
| easy webservices (no systinet) | 1 | 3.13% |
| Expose params in Call Public | 1 | 3.13% |
| extended merge functionality | 1 | 3.13% |
| Free runtime licence up to 5 users | 1 | 3.13% |
| improved graphical support / drawing and charts | 1 | 3.13% |
| Mobile interface | 1 | 3.13% |
| More advanced topics in documentation | 1 | 3.13% |
| more responsive programs ( no freezing for a minute in batch tasks) | 1 | 3.13% |
| Native Excel Reports | 1 | 3.13% |
| None | 1 | 3.13% |
| Rich client | 1 | 3.13% |
| Source Analysis tools | 1 | 3.13% |
| Themes | 1 | 3.13% |
| True inheritance. Models, even in v10, are weak.A lot more R&D required in this area. | 1 | 3.13% |
| Usable filter for the debugger | 1 | 3.13% |
| VB.net calls | 1 | 3.13% |
| Values | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| 64-bit Windows support for toolkit | 1 | 4.55% |
| a drag and drop controls on a report generator tool | 1 | 4.55% |
| Ability to create a real "executable" | 1 | 4.55% |
| be stable | 1 | 4.55% |
| better migration tool | 1 | 4.55% |
| better table control with integrated key/sort/range/locate capablities | 1 | 4.55% |
| better task tree like in 8 | 1 | 4.55% |
| Browser Client, browser independent | 1 | 4.55% |
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | 1 | 4.55% |
| Development towards an eDeveloper scripting-type language. No more table entries. Free type would be preferable for quick copy/paste, yet with auto complete using the same trusted instructions SELECTS, LINKS etc... | 1 | 4.55% |
| Easier transfer of a group of programs from CTL to another | 1 | 4.55% |
| examples, documentation | 1 | 4.55% |
| GUI | 1 | 4.55% |
| HTML editing tool | 1 | 4.55% |
| HTML Merge in edeveloper 10 as in Magic 8 | 1 | 4.55% |
| Linx Development and Deployments | 1 | 4.55% |
| More development utilities from MSE like Magic Optimiser | 1 | 4.55% |
| More flexible licensing / support fee structure | 1 | 4.55% |
| None | 1 | 4.55% |
| RAD web programming | 1 | 4.55% |
| Rich client | 1 | 4.55% |
| To be able to set the defaults of the studio | 1 | 4.55% |
| Values | Count | Percent |
|---|---|---|
| A project file from MSE containing real world examples of EVERY function, action, control, object etc. in the eDev arsenal. | 1 | 7.69% |
| Apple OS Development and Deployment | 1 | 7.69% |
| autoscaling of forms | 1 | 7.69% |
| be stable | 1 | 7.69% |
| Better company | 1 | 7.69% |
| better SQL integration (e.g. computed columns) | 1 | 7.69% |
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | 1 | 7.69% |
| Fix PDF creation - very buggy | 1 | 7.69% |
| forms as templates for online app | 1 | 7.69% |
| Full access to the user rights table | 1 | 7.69% |
| More interaction with this group | 1 | 7.69% |
| None | 1 | 7.69% |
| RIA | 1 | 7.69% |
Total Responses: 64
18. Please rate your use of the following third-party products: ()
| Item | Frequent use in my projects | Occasional Use | Evaluated, decided not to use | Never looked at it | Total |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| HotFudge | 28.5% |
28.0% |
26.1% |
17.4% |
92 |
| Get | 35.2% |
25.3% |
17.6% |
22.0% |
91 |
| MagicPlus | 1.3% |
6.4% |
25.6% |
66.7% |
78 |
| mgBoost | - |
7.8% |
13.0% |
79.2% |
77 |
| FireFly | 1.3% |
3.8% |
10.3% |
84.6% |
78 |
| magic2java | - |
1.3% |
15.4% |
83.3% |
78 |
| Average %: | 12.0% | 13.1% | 18.2% | 56.7% |
Total Responses: 92
19. Which best describes the nature of your development team?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Independent Software Vendor (creating software for sale) | 37.37% |
| Enterprise/Corporate Development (Company-wide) | 31.31% |
| Consultant | 16.16% |
| Departmental/Workgroup application development | 9.09% |
| Occupational Developer (Engineer, Doctor, Lawyer, etc. doing your own custom application development) | 4.04% |
| mostly retired | 1.01% |
| Value Added Reseller | 1.01% |
| Choices Selected: | 99 |
| Total Responses: | 99 |
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20. Which of the following best describes your organization's industry or the industry for which you primarily write software?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| Producer of Computer Software | 25.25% |
| Manufacturer of other non-computer related goods | 10.10% |
| Finance/Banking/Accounting | 9.09% |
| Transportation/Shipping | 9.09% |
| Healthcare/Pharmaceuticals/Medical Services | 8.08% |
| Insurance/Real Estate/Legal Services | 4.04% |
| Construction | 2.02% |
| Other | 2.02% |
| Publishing/Broadcasting/Entertainment | 2.02% |
| Retail | 2.02% |
| Aerospace/Defense/Military | 1.01% |
| Agri culture | 1.01% |
| All verticals that need a problem solved | 1.01% |
| Automotive | 1.01% |
| books wholesale | 1.01% |
| Computer Gaming | 1.01% |
| Education | 1.01% |
| Government | 1.01% |
| Hospitality | 1.01% |
| Manufacturer of computer-related hardware | 1.01% |
| Mfr/Distributor for Franchise Network | 1.01% |
| Mining | 1.01% |
| Most of the above | 1.01% |
| No specific market area | 1.01% |
| Others | 1.01% |
| PfW VAR | 1.01% |
| Procurement Services | 1.01% |
| renovaiton contractor | 1.01% |
| Retail Sales | 1.01% |
| Retail, Constructions | 1.01% |
| Service | 1.01% |
| Telecommunications | 1.01% |
| Trading | 1.01% |
| Travel | 1.01% |
| Utility: Gas, electric, sanitation | 1.01% |
| various: fincance, software producers, transportation, etc, etc | 1.01% |
| Choices Selected: | 99 |
| Total Responses: | 99 |
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21. How old are you?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| 40 - 49 | 35.00% |
| 50 - 59 | 23.00% |
| 30 - 39 | 19.00% |
| 60 or above | 14.00% |
| 20 - 29 | 7.00% |
| Prefer not to say | 2.00% |
| Choices Selected: | 100 |
| Total Responses: | 100 |
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22. Which country are you based in?
| Value | Percent % |
|---|---|
| United States of America | 32.00% |
| United Kingdom | 12.00% |
| Israel | 9.00% |
| Netherlands | 9.00% |
| Canada | 5.00% |
| Germany | 4.00% |
| Austria | 2.00% |
| China | 2.00% |
| Croatia | 2.00% |
| Mexico | 2.00% |
| New Zealand | 2.00% |
| Philippines | 2.00% |
| Poland | 2.00% |
| Australia | 1.00% |
| Belgium | 1.00% |
| Czech Republic | 1.00% |
| France | 1.00% |
| Hong Kong | 1.00% |
| Hungary | 1.00% |
| India | 1.00% |
| Indonesia | 1.00% |
| Iraq | 1.00% |
| Puerto Rico | 1.00% |
| Romania | 1.00% |
| Singapore | 1.00% |
| Slovenia | 1.00% |
| South Africa | 1.00% |
| Switzerland | 1.00% |
| Choices Selected: | 100 |
| Total Responses: | 100 |
Report from www.SurveyGizmo.com
Appendix: 23.
Please detail up to 5 Wish-list items you want to see added or enhanced in Magic/eDeveloper
| 1st Choice | 2nd Choice | 3rd Choice | 4th Choice | 5th Choice |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ajax for HTML-Merge | Component Palette | Expose params in Call Public | ||
| Built-in "this isn't used" box | Built-in printed documentation feature | Easier way to get components | Ability to create a real "executable" | |
| GUI | Data Mapper | |||
| GUI | ||||
| MySQL gateway | ||||
| CSS level GUI features | Possibility to query and set table index | Usable filter for the debugger | Easier transfer of a group of programs from CTL to another | |
| Better GUI components | Integrated web development | Themes | ||
| n/a | ||||
| RAD | Up to date GUI | extended merge functionality | examples, documentation | RIA |
| .NET support | Documentation | |||
| .NET support | RC | Source Analysis tools | GUI | |
| Rich Client Working as advertised | ||||
| Free runtime licensing | Call deferred programs from physical | Rich client | HTML editing tool | Fix PDF creation - very buggy |
| Proper web development solution | Improved GUI controls | .net assemblies support | better table control with integrated key/sort/range/locate capablities | better SQL integration (e.g. computed columns) |
| see http://wishlist.mage.nl :-D | ||||
| Improved IDE. v10 is dull - 15 year old technology glammed up. Unacceptable. | Enhancements to the languag - especially the handling of .Net assemblies. Ability to declare structures - remove buffers they're rubbish for RAD. More functions and wizards. Ability to add own controls to pallet. Sort that useless colour picker out! | True inheritance. Models, even in v10, are weak.A lot more R&D required in this area. | Development towards an eDeveloper scripting-type language. No more table entries. Free type would be preferable for quick copy/paste, yet with auto complete using the same trusted instructions SELECTS, LINKS etc... | A project file from MSE containing real world examples of EVERY function, action, control, object etc. in the eDev arsenal. |
| HTML Embedded | ||||
| ODBC in ALL versions | More traditional array handling | Bundle at least some of i-bolt with eDev | More flexible licensing / support fee structure | More interaction with this group |
| .NET based | faster | .NET integration | better task tree like in 8 | Better company |
| Subversion support! | PostgreSQL support (not via ODBC) | Cross platform deployment | ||
| better native support for import/export of data | ||||
| Better windows look and feel | More builtin functions | Better PDF integration | ||
| Default functionality should be more windows like. | ||||
| Integration with MS OFFICE | Better integration with SQL | |||
| Scroll Bars on Tables that behave better. Smooth Scrolling that does not alter current highlighted record while scrolling. Scrollbars that don't require 'pre-load' that have better behaviour | Recursive components. Primary motiviation is to implement 'call backs' , not to recursively call programs. Currently difficult, and convoluted to implement a black box component. | Call public support for subforms. Once again in the spirit of creating self contained components. Able to call any ECF and public name. | ||
| Graphing Capabilities | Windows Explorer Type Functionalities | |||
| GUI Enhancements | Auditing | Array Handling | Linx Development and Deployments | Apple OS Development and Deployment |
| no runtime fees | ||||
| Better GUI | data commit before subform | |||
| Better documentation | Better GUI | Free runtime licence up to 5 users | ||
| Better documentation | Stability with multi-user development | Better and more controls | ||
| Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ | Class integration with .NET Framework 3.5+ |
| More examples | ||||
| kerberos | integration/interface with CMS like Joola | |||
| an easier way to develop web apps | ||||
| None | None | None | None | None |
| .net Components (Visual) | Vista style | |||
| a | ||||
| Flexible ActiveX Integration - "Open Forms Editor" | Parkable button controls | "Back" and "Forward" buttons in studio, taking you to past stopping points and back | 64-bit Windows support for toolkit | |
| richer GUI for C/S programs | .Net controls | more responsive programs ( no freezing for a minute in batch tasks) | RAD web programming | |
| SQL Integration | ||||
| Less bugs | ||||
| GUI Controls | Access to all the code at runtime | Access to all statussus of the RTE | To be able to set the defaults of the studio | Full access to the user rights table |
| Regular Expressions | Better Web Development | Better SQL Server integration | More development utilities from MSE like Magic Optimiser | |
| Separate GUI from logic | ||||
| Multiline table titles on the new windows style tables | Better interaction with DotNet | |||
| Web Service provider: enhanced/simplified use of complex XSDs; full compliance with the Microsoft world's requirements | Rich client | |||
| more functionalities | latest features as it is available in other tools | Mobile interface | ||
| code based programing along side the Magic way - integration with VS will be the best | Better and more GUI controls | Database triggers | ||
| passing multiple parameters to a select program (from control properties) | ||||
| Better MS Office integration | Better Vector support | |||
| keyboard macros | include everything that magic optimizer does | |||
| Value | ||||
| seamless Development for the web | eliminate record locking and alt-e task settings | improved graphical support / drawing and charts | a drag and drop controls on a report generator tool | |
| Rich Internet Client | Open client for linux | Native Excel Reports | Browser Client, browser independent | forms as templates for online app |
| better datagrid | dotnet integration | easy webservices (no systinet) | better migration tool | autoscaling of forms |
| open to other RDMS | ||||
| Linux workstation support | real native MySQL driver | |||
| be stable | be stable | be stable | be stable | be stable |
| Table Column Header Sort after click relocate | Easier way to change screen Tab Order | VB.net calls | Rich client | |
| GUI components (like DevExpress) | MSSQL support for Express version | More advanced topics in documentation | ||
| Continuation based rich internet client | Portable C/S Client eg OSX | |||
| Table control | ||||
| Sizeable models | Simple graphical buttons (eg. text with an icon) | Better documentation | HTML Merge in edeveloper 10 as in Magic 8 |
Appendix: 24.
What do you think are Magic/eDeveloper's strongest points?
| Code | Value |
|---|---|
| 9314068 | RAD |
| 9322953 | RAD |
| 9833332 | RAD |
| 9314056 | I can create robust code quickly, and it works. For two decades, even when the operating system changes or I switch DBMS's. |
| 9315208 | Being able to take a business concept or problem and convert it quickly into an application and solution |
| 9317073 | The RAD feature, but now it is not valid for every part of dev. |
| 9317939 | OS Independent |
| 9318255 | Easy programming |
| 9318290 | RAD, but therefore they need to work more and more on it to keep on top. |
| 9318501 | RAD DB connectivity |
| 9318976 | Best RADD tool in the world High level development (4GL) Flexibility and capability |
| 9319071 | RAD capablities proper abstraction DB app development - logic-data-form readability of "code" |
| 9319697 | The engine concept |
| 9319630 | Remarkable ability to progress to new versions with comparatively little coding changes. Relatively stable when in production. Easy to read "source" and locate coding bugs/issues. Excellent in doing POCs, demos for user scenarios etc Still viable tool for corporate development - just. |
| 9320362 | fast development |
| 9351853 | fast development |
| 9363792 | fast development |
| 9320172 | Its top edge technologies it covers and support to being able to integrate with almost anything in the IT world that moves.. |
| 9321505 | Speed of development over a broad range of platforms / paradigms. |
| 9321713 | Integrated repository, X-reference |
| 9322111 | Development speed. |
| 9323043 | Speed, verstility |
| 9323318 | Fast stable development of robust applications |
| 9323553 | Speed of development |
| 9353122 | Speed of development |
| 9324621 | Batch processing, and platform support. |
| 9325178 | Rapid Application Development and Depoyment Object-oriemted Programming |
| 9326690 | compatibilty to previous version it's easy to support old applications |
| 9327208 | Continuity, robust engine |
| 9328825 | Speed of development Reliability |
| 9330496 | Heavy duty record crunching and transactional processing apps |
| 9333839 | great development tool (concept of abstraction implied throughout the intended use of its IDE Cross platform and OS Old code upgrades so easily to a product that does a good job being meaningful amid current technologies |
| 9337559 | Ease of use, reliability |
| 9338694 | aa |
| 9343046 | RAD capabilities that allow to build complex applications fast |
| 9344149 | Fast development time |
| 9352044 | radd |
| 9351931 | Relative easy migration to newer version. This makes the application having a new modern look easy. |
| 9352962 | The non-standard Magic concept of thinking and building an application. |
| 9353533 | Speed of development; ease of maintenance; providing a level of abstraction whilst allowing reasoable control over lower-level factors |
| 9355445 | being RAD tool |
| 9357888 | productivity |
| 9359715 | ease of upgrading and still a pretty darn good RAD tool |
| 9368866 | Ease of use, flexibility, cross platform developement |
| 9366904 | standardization of program flow; RAD; rapid prototype development; learn one language and use it through many versions of the language's enhancements |
| 9368332 | Speed of development and stability of applications. Magicu-l |
| 9371843 | Velocity for C/S aplications |
| 9390865 | database connectivity, integration |
| 9414056 | rapid applications development and deployment |
| 9423042 | Flexibility for maintaining systems |
| 9427492 | ease of maintenance speed of development |
| 9555252 | Easy to learn ,fast to develop. |
| 9618831 | Ability to upgrade from one version to the next new version. |
| 9792917 | RAD C/S desktop applications |
| 9901431 | DB portability RADD Plays nicely with most technology Team development scales very well Pre v10, a "living" IDE |
| 9914802 | Rapid application development Maintanence of an existing application |
Appendix: 25.
What do you think are Magic/eDeveloper's weakest points?
| Code | Value |
|---|---|
| 9314068 | IDE |
| 9314056 | Training. It's hard to get new programmers "thinking Magic". |
| 9315208 | GUI and integration with external "widgets". Since I'm spoiled, I would expect the same level of RADD with external integration as I do within the tool |
| 9317073 | Bad support, bad documentation, slow and not flexible GUI. Insufficient marketing/advertising - I mean that eDeveloper is not well known. |
| 9317939 | GUI |
| 9327208 | GUI |
| 9352962 | GUI |
| 9318255 | Closed enviroment |
| 9318290 | it is difficult to follow one straight line, programs need sometimes a lot of workarounds. |
| 9318400 | Marketing Documentation |
| 9318501 | Non Object oriented Documentaion |
| 9318976 | Does not fully embrace .NET yet Not recognized by development community Marketing potential not realized |
| 9319071 | Slow adoption of new tecniques TCO for the the developer fails to become more mainstream and accepted as a proper tool worldwide |
| 9319697 | Unknown in the market |
| 9319630 | It appears to have run out of "puff" -the evolution has slowed to such an extent that you have to ask what has MSE been doing for the last 10 years... |
| 9320362 | stability |
| 9320172 | Still - MSE's very poor marketing. I think that the new MSE management has in front of them a very challenging goal, so eDev will be back at its top place in the tools market. |
| 9321505 | Lack of name recognition; lack of credibility in IT / IS departments. |
| 9321713 | Web development, speed, .NET integration |
| 9323043 | Marketing/ User awareness. Nothing technical comes to mind |
| 9322953 | Support. No knowledge base to search. Known issues (QCR's) are not posted so the same problem/bug may be reported by mutiple users. The only way to know if a bug is fixed is to search the release notes manually. Support is far behind other tech companies. |
| 9323318 | Default shortcuts and functionality not familiar to regular Windows users. ie: F5 to zoom, Alt+Q and ALt+M to change Query and Modify, Alt+Back etc. |
| 9323553 | Support |
| 9324621 | Runtime costs, completeness of features, documentation weakness, lack of knowledgebase for problem resolution, small community. |
| 9325178 | Expensive (Development and Deployment Licenses) Limited Market Presence |
| 9325246 | The company does not understand, or care, about the Small Business Market. |
| 9326690 | not well known |
| 9328825 | Lack of intelligible documentation Cost of runtime licence |
| 9330496 | RICH CLIENT and IDE interfacing with the largest web tools (i.e. .NET) |
| 9331725 | Documentation |
| 9363792 | Documentation |
| 9427492 | Documentation |
| 9914802 | Documentation |
| 9333839 | fragmented marketing/product delivery inconsistent message from corporate leaders image of a hobbiest's toy/tool compared to "real enterprise products" |
| 9334986 | web development |
| 9337559 | The format (record main, prefix, suffix, etc) is sometimes constraining. |
| 9338694 | aaaaaaaa |
| 9343046 | limited UI capabilities , rigid engine flow, lack of responsiveness in batch programs, sometimes low quality of new features, |
| 9344149 | Documentation. Visibility in the market. |
| 9344497 | Support for direct SQL queries and Report writing absolutely sucks. Lack of PDF integration is cumbersome. |
| 9351853 | GUI-interface possibilities |
| 9351931 | You are stuck to what is on board. If you step outside (e.g. using a dll) it will bite you. So make sure you keep full controle over outside source. |
| 9353122 | Cost of runtimes/maintenance. |
| 9353533 | Marketing!! Quality Control (although that is improving) Still needs closer integration with MS tools & standards |
| 9355445 | Lack of marketing statergy and product cost. Also lack of awareness in the market which ultimately become tough task when company need to market product. Also lack of user manuals as compare with other tools/languages. |
| 9357888 | It's too comlicated for new developers |
| 9359715 | In the past they have been slow adopting to new technology. This has improved in the last few years but they still have cath up to do |
| 9368866 | documentation/support |
| 9366904 | graphics; web development. |
| 9368332 | Documentation/examples -From MSE Mastering e Developer is a great start |
| 9371843 | Dynamic Web Tecnology works only in IE6 |
| 9385793 | Any |
| 9390865 | dotnet, webservices |
| 9423042 | Support by magic company, you really need the user group for support. |
| 9555252 | too hard to get a new job with Magic experience. |
| 9618831 | Communications to customers, |
| 9792917 | MSSQL only for Enterprise version? Why, we make small apps almost allways on for example SQL express. Database is easily managable, free, integrates perfectly with .net. If MSSQL was supported for the eDev Express version it would be choosen far more often. |
| 9833332 | noscripting, week implementation tools |
| 9901431 | Huge learning curve. Since v6, a confused paradigm Tied to windows Still no usefully deployable low cost client |
Appendix: 26.
What could we do to enhance the usefulness of Magicu-l and the Magic Developer community?
| Code | Value |
|---|---|
| 9314056 | ??? Excellent question. Wish I knew the answer. |
| 9315208 | Possibly community Demos and/or training sessions. Maybe even weekly. We could list somewhere (like on a survey like this) what we'd like to see. Then presenters could sign-up for each and then we could schedule them. |
| 9317073 | Persuade MSE to take part in the list. |
| 9317939 | More extended examples. |
| 9318255 | Share our componnents |
| 9318290 | build out the wiki (NG) |
| 9318501 | Move away from yahoo groups to a more suitable and searchable Forum. Create a set of expert examples for each function and tool in eDev |
| 9318976 | Don't let anything happen to Heidi |
| 9319071 | The current communities are very usefull and well arranged. (magicu-l and the Israeli forum) |
| 9319697 | At least keep up the excellent work as it is now. Really valuable. |
| 9320362 | More spolights on Oracle/SQL using with Magic as well as using of Magic Transactions ( f.e. Rollback issues ) |
| 9320172 | To make it somehow another "arm" of MSE's support so the group will benefit a more direct approach from MSE HQ and the opposite is that MSE will be able by the help of this group to issue more robust and stable software products. |
| 9321505 | Give the Heidie & Dale more support in hosting the annual MIUG conference. Maybe they could head up a group instead of having to do it alone and assume all the risk. |
| 9321713 | .NET integration |
| 9322994 | I think if we could get some more examples in the group. Very hard to find something relating to what we do |
| 9322953 | Have tech support people monitor Magic-l and respond when needed. |
| 9323318 | Simply keep it up. It is the best resource for experienced and inexperienced developers. |
| 9323553 | Everything is great |
| 9324621 | can't think of anything. |
| 9325246 | Provide better, and more, realistic, examples. |
| 9327208 | Move to Google |
| 9333839 | [Regarding #20, I use Magic Optimizer frequently] To ehance the community, I think we need to move from Yahoo! Groups to our own home. I think it makes the tool look less professional that we depend on Yahoo. And I think we could communicate better at another "home." |
| 9337559 | I find them very useful as is. |
| 9338694 | aaaaaa |
| 9343046 | DON'T TOUCH IT ! :-) |
| 9352044 | keep the good work going |
| 9351931 | Solutions on the magicu-l could be placed in the wikki of NG. This would make them easier to find. |
| 9352962 | Set up a library of small component and examples |
| 9355445 | User groups are more useful for new/existing developers. |
| 9359715 | nothing, it's the greatest. |
| 9363792 | better search engine |
| 9368866 | it's very helpful perhaps a clearer path to examples and shareware would help |
| 9366904 | Introduce RPGII programmers to Magic; develop a set of Magicu-l standards so that beginners are more easily taught and directed. |
| 9390865 | continue the your work. you do a good job. |
| 9618831 | Not much. It works very well now |
| 9792917 | php.net like website (documentation, user comments) |
| 9864878 | Keep it going |
Appendix: 27.
Additional Comments:
| Code | Value |
|---|---|
| 9314056 | Excellent survey! Thanks! |
| 9318290 | Let MSE survive till i can retire :-) |
| 9318976 | eDeveloper rules! |
| 9319697 | for some of the questions I would have liked multiple answers... Great initiative this and curious about the outcome!!! |
| 9319630 | May the force be with us all... |
| 9320172 | All my complements to the great people of the group which I constantly enjoy reading their post, mainly Craig and Heidi, and all the others. Great Job! SR |
| 9321505 | Thanks! |
| 9321713 | Magic has wasted alot of time with iBolt which I consider to be their Newton. I don't know if they have a Steve Jobs to save them. |
| 9322111 | Nice survey. :) |
| 9322623 | My country is not on the list, why? , Dominican Republic is also known as Santo Domingo, the island shared by Haiti and we are near Puerto Rico. |
| 9323318 | Hey Craig, you probably figured out who this is. Cam back to Magic after almost 3 years becasue my Company needed some software to run smoothly and voila; the techniques are returning and Magic still blows me away. |
| 9333839 | Thanks, Craig. You add a lot to our community. I"ll be interested to see the results of this survey - and our reactions! |
| 9337559 | I don't intend to upgrade to anything else. But if I were to, I would upgrade to latest e/developer. Why? mostly for loyalty. I like the Company. They were there when nobody else was. |
| 9338694 | 88888 |
| 9355445 | It would be great if Magic company create more awareness or improve marketing statergy and also to reduce tool license cost. |
| 9359715 | Craig, when are you going to attend one of Heidi's MIUG? 2209? |
| 9363792 | keep on magic'ing |
| 9368866 | thx to the community for existing :) |
| 9366904 | i think our customers need a users group. One of the biggest fears in my shop is that I will go away and there are no eDev programmers onn our area to replace me. If the customers had a user group perhaps they would not feel alone. |
| 9618831 | I was unable to get the rating controls to work in IE7. They worked after I clicked Submit and got an error on them |
| 9792917 | x |
| 9864878 | Haven't had oppotunity to evaluate v10 properly yet, hence these questions were only asnwered based on expectation |